Daniel Joyce – is it a fair world?
Posted by Ashley Proud on 19th November 2008

Has there ever been a player in the NBL who has had more questions asked about him than Daniel Joyce? Everybody has had a say about this guy and many Wollongong Hawks fans are not overly endowered with him. So why is he so disliked and bagged out? Let the information begin!
Daniel started his career with the Hawks in the 2006-07 season with his dad Brendan Joyce as coach. Part way through the season Brendan got the chop from the Hawks and assistant coach Eric Cooks took over for the remainder of the season. At the end of the season, Daniel followed his dad to his new job with the Gold Coast Blaze and has played the 2007-08 and 2008-09 season with the Blaze. Throughout his career Daniel has averaged 4.8ppg, 1.3rpg and 2.0apg. His career free thrown percentage is 65% and his 3pt% is 29%. These aren’t exactly earth shattering numbers and to be fair, his career has been plauged with inconsistency so far.
So now that I have successfully got Education Queensland to unblock JR On Fire, I am able to search through everybody’s favourite Australian bloggers site. I remembered ages ago that JR had wrote a post titled ‘Coaching Your Son’ This post was wrote on the 7th of September. In the post JR states:
Let me make it clear that I am not a Joyce-hater, and I know there are plenty of you out there. I will also admit to having defended Joyce Jr many a time to a group of his peers. I believe the kid has some skills that could see him become a serviceable NBL player.
I believe he is critiqued from a slanted view on most occasions. He plays for his father and that is a tough gig. Not even the legendary Andrew/Lindsay Gaze relationship went without criticism.
Daniel is doing what anyone in his position would,…making the most of the opportunity that has been presented to him. Would you knock back a chance to improve yourself if you were en route to making your dream a reality?
I agree with this post 100% and think that it is not Daniel’s fault for all of the scutiny that he receives. In this same post JR goes on to state:
Joyce Jr, as I mentioned, is an up-and-comer with potential. His greatest asset at the moment is his feel for the game. For instance, he knows where to find the open man when he draws the defense in with penetration.
On the down side, this has also led to him becoming turnover prone when the pressure is turned up. His shot consistency also needs to improve if he wants to be considered a true offensive threat and 50% of a strong backcourt.
Joyce Sr has made a big call on behalf of his son and he need know that opposition players will read it and step up to prove him wrong. Daniel already plays with a target on his back that reads ‘Coaches Son’ in the middle. Has Brendan just made the target bigger and brighter?
In my humble opinion the biggest issue is that he has been thrusted into playing major mintues before he is problary ready. He is the third guard in the rotation behind Shane Heal and James Harvey and he really needs to be the 4th guard. People are even making YouTube clips giving him a hard time which I feel is a bit harsh. He has good size for a guard (194cm) and his career highlight would have been hitting that game winning shot against the Hawks last weekend. Without being at the game, the question that I have to pose is: Why was he on the court at the end of a close game? If Heal or Harvey were fouled out, then fair enough but if they weren’t….. I guess that you have to give Brendan credit for showing faith in him but if the shot had of missed, he would have been taunted and criticised for years to come by the Hawks fans. He is constantly malligned by the fans at the Ozhoopsboards and this post from ‘Go The Blaze’ is typical of what he receives:
To qualify the last two weeks:
Game vs Sydney- SOJ scores 24
- 15 of 24 pts came in garbage time during 4th quarter after Spirit were already leading by 25+
Game vs. Wollongong- SOJ scores match winner
- Scores clutch match winner- credit due
- Played 28 mins (3rd most on team) for 11 pts, 0 assists and 1 reb; still a poor contribution for the time played
- Is ranked 82nd out of 100 in the league for efficiency, a figure that could be much worse considering that he doesn’t even bring the ball up the court anymore
I think that Daniel needs to play a full off season in the ABA / SEABL / Whatever it is called this off season and put up some quality numbers. I think that it would help his game and it would be good for him to get away from the scrutiny of getting minutes due to his dad being the coach. I am sure that V Dog who is coach of the Bundaberg Bulls would love to have him on the roster.
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